If you are a serious believer in the Lord Jesus Christ as we know him in the Gospels, summarized in the creeds—true God of true God, God incarnate, born of the Virgin Mary of the Holy Spirit, suffered under Pontius Pilate, crucified, dead, buried and rose again from the dead and ascended to God the Father, and that he will come again to judge the living and the dead—ask your priest or your pastor: “Do you really believe all that stuff?” Ask it in the mainline, ask it in any Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant Church, and let’s see what we get.—
James M. Kushiner. Reading this made me remember a quote from C. S. Lewis (found in God in the Dock): “It is your duty to fix the lines [of doctrine] clearly in your minds: and if you wish to go beyond them you must change your profession. This is your duty not specially as Christians or as priests but as honest men. There is a danger here of the clergy developing a special professional conscience which obscures the very plain moral issue. Men who have passed beyond these boundary lines in either direction are apt to protest that they have come by their unorthodox opinions honestly. In defense of those opinions they are prepared to suffer obloquy and to forfeit professional advancement. They thus come to feel like martyrs. But this simply misses the point which so gravely scandalizes the layman. We never doubted that the unorthodox opinions were honestly held: what we complain of is your continuing in your ministry after you have come to hold them. We always knew that a man who makes his living as a paid agent of the Conservative Party may honestly change his views and honestly become a Communist. What we deny is that he can honestly continue to be a Conservative agent and to receive money from one party while he supports the policy of the other.” (via wesleyhill)
Sincerity of belief is important. But truth of belief is even more important.
Humaita Prison in Brazil is a remarkable place. Almost twenty years ago, it was a rotting building where prisoners were tortured. Then three Christian men went to the government and asked permission to take over the prison. They got permission. And they started to run Humaita as a Christian prison. They did not restrict it to Christian inmates, but you couldn’t stay there very long without coming to know Christ.
When an inmate arrives with handcuffs on, they take off the handcuffs and say, “In this prison you will no longer be chained by steel; you will be chained by the love of Christ.”
They assign people to a buddy system. Each new inmate is assigned to an elder who loves the Lord.
And at every single meal, they stand before the meal and recite the Lord’s Prayer in Portuguese.
If anyone ever asks whether Christ makes a difference, send them down to San Jose des Campos in Brazil to the Humaita Prison. For all those years, while the government of Brazil has had a 74 percent recidivism rate, Humaita has released more than three hundred inmates, and they have had only twelve come back. That’s 4 percent recidivism.
One inmate showed me Humaita’s secret. This inmate was convicted for murder, but he was my guide through the prison, walking around with all the prison keys hanging from his belt. He asked whether I’d like to see the maximum security cell. So we walked down a long hall of steel doors toward the cell in question. He said it used to be the punishment cell where they tortured people. “We still use it for punishment,” he said. “We have one inmate in there.”
He took me to the door and looked through the little peek hole. “Are you sure you want to go in there?” he asked. “I have been in maximum security holes all over the world,” I told him. I wanted to see. He said, “Okay,” and then unlocked the door. As he swung the door open, I looked in and saw a couple of chairs and a dim light and flowers on a table. I walked through the door. To the right I saw a crucifix–Christ hanging on the cross.
My guide pointed to the image of Christ and said, “This is the prisoner who is taking the punishment for us.” A sign on the wall above the crucifix said, “We are together” in Portuguese. They understand that they are joined with Christ, who suffered.(from Setting the Captives Free by Chuck Colson)
Rather than pouring our efforts into two hours of worship, bible study and Christian fellowship on Sunday why don’t we just take a moment and a few extra bucks to act like a decent human being when we go to lunch afterwards? Just think about it. What if the entire restaurant industry actually began to look forward to working Sunday lunch? If they said amongst themselves, “I love the church crowd. They are kind, patient and very generous. It’s my favorite part of the week waiting on Christians.” How might such a change affect the way the world sees us? Think about it. Just being a decent human being for one hour each Sunday and the world sees us in a whole new way.—
Experimental Theology: The Bait and Switch of Contemporary Christianity (via sds)
May I propose :
Think about it. Just be
inga decent human beingfor one houreach Sundayand the world sees us in a whole new way.
Why the quid pro quo? Just be decent. There’s no need to tie simply being a good person to a particular theology.
It’s remarkable that anyone needs to be reminded of this, regardless of their faith-based affiliation.
(via danielholter)
I would find it remarkable if you could find anyone who never needs to be reminded of this.
I also submit that “being a good person” is a highly subjective term, so it necessarily must be associated to, if not (to use Daniel’s term) a “particular theology,” then at least a belief system. Not all explanations for the human condition (and what “good” even means) come to the same conclusion.
Though I am a strong advocate for free thought on all subjects, yet it appears to me (whether rightly or wrongly) that direct arguments against Christianity & theism produce hardly any effect on the public; & freedom of thought is best promoted by the gradual illumination of men’s minds, which follows from the advance of science.— Charles Darwin, declining the request of an assertively atheist writer to dedicate a book to him. The contrast to the “new atheists” is made explicit here. (via ayjay)
Anyway, I’m an Angry Agnostic - I don’t believe in God, I don’t not believe in him, but I’m very interested in him. How could I not be? I have a mind and I’ve read a lot of stuff. I am also hyper-aware - as are most intelligent scientists - of the excessive claims made for science… . If you are really interested in any of this - and you should be - you should read the argument between the theologian Richard Swinburne and Richard Dawkins. Properly done, this will keep you going for the rest of August. You may take the view that it’s not worth it because Swinburne is a theologian and, therefore, a silly fantastist. If you do take this view, then you are a a fool, a prat, an illiterate and a bore etc. and you are banned from reading this blog.—
Brian Appleyard (via ayjay)
This made me laugh.
Morality doesn’t come from religion. Healthy human children come into the world primed to become moral members of society, just like they come into the world primed to acquire language. Moral emotions like empathy, shame, guilt and disgust begin to emerge during the toddler years regardless of a child’s cultural or religious context. A toddler may pat an injured peer or offer a grubby toy to an adult who is distressed. A preschooler may hide behind a couch to cover a transgression. As a child’s brain develops, moral emotions are joined by moral reasoning. By age five or six, kids can argue long and loud about fairness. Research is just starting to show how our moral emotions and reasoning are guided by powerful moral instincts. I think these instincts are the reason that across secular and moral traditions we humans share some basic agreements about goodness. The golden rule appears in some form or another in every ethical system.—
Valerie Tarico (via azspot)
It would be impossible entirely unethical impossible, but I would like to see a study that shows whether or not this is actually true; would children left to themselves, without any outside human influence at any time, really come to these conclusions?
(via bellatoris)
This quotation misses the point entirely. At the basic level, religion is
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Of course religion comes after morality, because certain moral laws are recognized innately by humans and do not have to be taught them. Religions simply systematize and organize various explanations (aka beliefs) for why we all recognize a moral law—and then extrapolate further implications for living.
The question then becomes: “Which explanation for our innate sense of morality is the most reasonable?” Unsurprisingly, I believe Christianity best answers the fundamental questions about the human condition, etc. But don’t fall for the lie that says “non-religious” is even a valid category. Unless you’re a vegetable, that in itself is a religion.
First, remember that post-everything people like narrative and story. They tend not to like the older kind of preaching that simply enunciated doctrinal principles. Neither are they excited about the newer user-friendly sermons of seeker-churches on “How to Handle Fear,” “How to Balance Your Life,” etc. So, do we throw overboard everything we have done? Absolutely not. We turn to Geerhardus Vos who says that every single part of the Bible is really about Jesus. If you know how to do Christ-centered preaching, then you turn every single sermon into a kind of story. The plot of the human dilemma thickens, and the hero that comes to the rescue is Jesus. Christ-centered preaching converts doctrinal lectures or little how-to talks into true sermons. Post-everythings who are interested in narrative are reached by such preaching that is deeply Reformed.— “Post-everythings” by Tim Keller (via christ-follower) (via christianity)
— Ghandi“Religions are different roads converging to the same point. What does it matter that we take different road, so long as we reach the same goal. Wherein is the cause for quarrelling?”
sds:
Ghandi is spouting utter nonsense. Various religions make exclusive and competing truth claims, and logically they cannot all be true.
There is so much doctrine implicit in Ghandi’s statement.
It is saying that,
- if God exists, He does not care what path we decide on to get to Him
- there even IS such thing as a path that will get us to God
- indeed EVERY CONCEIVABLE path to God will work, even those based upon child sacrifices, sexism, barbarism, etc
- God must not have any overriding qualms or issues with humanity that must be addressed before we can be reconciled
- God will and must simply ignore or forget any and all evils ever perpetrated by men
- human dignity superceedes Divine dignity, since God is apparently forced to recognize our individual attempts to get to Him
- God has NOT spoken to us and told us how to get to him (as per sds’ comment), therefore any religion that claims to have revelation from God must be ignored
Every religion recognizes that the world is not perfect and attempts to explain why. I believe that the world is imperfect but God is not, and therefore He has a problem with us who have ruined the harmony of His creation with our selfishness and pride.
If this is so, we need HIM to tell US how to get right with Him, not the other way around.
If this is so, any and every means that a human might think-up on how to get to God will NOT be valid; only the way He specifies.If you happen to believe in this Way, it is not arrogance or ego; it is simply belief that God is real and He is pissed.
“Religions are different roads converging to the same point. What does it matter that we take different road, so long as we reach the same goal. Wherein is the cause for quarrelling?”— Ghandi (via shanexcore) hello-thereloveProbably has something to do with the fact that we don’t all seem to be reaching the same goal.
Ghandi is spouting utter nonsense. Various religions make exclusive and competing truth claims, and logically they cannot all be true.
And what’s more, her husband, children, and parents have been imprisoned:
SEOUL, South Korea — A Christian woman accused of distributing the Bible, a book banned in communist North Korea, was publicly executed last month for the crime, South Korean activists said Friday.
The 33-year-old mother of three, Ri Hyon Ok, also was accused of spying for South Korea and the United States, and of organizing dissidents, a rights group said in Seoul, citing documents obtained from the North.
The Investigative Commission on Crime Against Humanity report included a copy of Ri’s government-issued photo ID and said her husband, children and parents were sent to a political prison the day after her June 16 execution.
The U.S. State Department said in a report last year that “genuine religious freedom does not exist” in North Korea. “What religious practice or venues exist … (are) tightly controlled and used to advance the government’s political or diplomatic agenda,” the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom said in a May report. ”Other public and private religious activity is prohibited and anyone discovered engaging in clandestine religious practice faces official discrimination, arrest, imprisonment, and possibly execution.”
The report cited indications that the North Korean government had taken “new steps” to stop the clandestine spread of Christianity, particularly in areas near the border with China, including infiltrating underground churches and setting up fake prayer meetings as a trap for Christian converts.Sad.